Rene showing Ivan that "sabotage" is an insulting therm

[ReneK]

I am asking all Center members to be out of politics and continue the discussion of BlackBox maintaining.

We have solved many organisational questions and ready for the first maintaining steps for prepare first development versions of BlackBox executables. We need to make continuous step by step evolution from 1.6 to 1.7 by including the work done by Helmut Zinn and over developers in the form of issues in our project tracker. Then vote for including them in the development version.

Please, if you have some reason for sabotage Center activity, make this clear for others. From my point of view, that is important for the strategy planning.

Helmut, if you have any documentation of changes you make with 1.7, please share it here. That will helps to prepare Issues for each change.

The best way to cajole people into participating is to insult them.......really?

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[Ivan Denisov]

The best way to cajole people into participating is to insult them.......really?

Why do we need to cajole people? The best BlackBox is not for me, that is common goal of all Center members. I am not happy about low activity of Center members about discussion of bugs and features. I am not alone, the Doug said about the same. I am not insulting anybody. I want to know the trend. Will silent Center members will participate in further work?

[ReneK]

Ivan, if you don't get the connection between low activity and cajoling people to collaborate, then I suggest you study basic principles of people leadership.

Being feed up with low activity is fine. Suggesting that someone wants to sabotage the project is insulting. If you do not understand that, then you really should work on you're people skills

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[Ivan Denisov]

Ivan, if you don't get the connection between low activity and cajoling people to collaborate, then I suggest you study basic principles of people leadership.

Being feed up with low activity is fine. Suggesting that someone wants to sabotage the project is insulting. If you do not understand that, then you really should work on you're people skills

I agree with you. however I should not posses my self as a leader for this I have no enough development experience yet. I am beginner programmer with some free time and experience with web-development. That is why the expert opinion (feedback on my actions) is very important for my activity. Thank you for this feedback. I will move our talk to archive for preventing off-topic discussion.