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I am suggesting to remove Out, XYPlane and StdClocks.

Why? Is their presence causing problems?

I use them so I would vote no if it was submitted to a vote.

Out according the documentation "is not recommended for use in production programs". And it is not used by Obx for learning. Log should be used instead.

XYplane contains WinApi, which should not be presented in System except Kernel. It is used by ObxFern. Maybe we can move XYplane to Obx sybsystem.

StdClock is just unnecessary stuff gone from Oberon OS. It is not used in documentation or in Obx subsystem.

Ivan,

Please don't start new topics. Don't remove those modules in the current state.
That is a complete new development cycle which will delay the next release over another year.
Please insert back StdLogo too.

It is a big task to reprogram XYplane to use the framework instead of calling WinApi.
You can't replace module Out with StdLog as long as you have not a replacement for module In.
Do not remove StdClock.

- Helmut

By all means remove redundant modules.

StdClock is not redundant.
Out is not redundant.
StdLogo is not redundant.
If XYplane is used by ObxFern it is not redundant.
...

Don't change any of these modules!

Ivan, please stop bothering us with new issues
that don't provide any benefit but introduce
incompatibilities with BB 1.6.

Ok, I see the opinion. Will not touch them.