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Ivan Denisov wrote:In windows 7 there is no problem.

What about Windows XP?

Converters is normally not linked into the .exe file.
Even if I put a HALT into StdLoader, which is linked, I get a proper error window.

- Josef

DGDanforth wrote:Will everyone please do in the master

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BEGIN
	HALT(99);
	list := NIL
END Converters.

Please tell me what you see.

Did this test with version #450 - not quite the latest, but not old. I am running XP.

With the hacked Converters a new copy of BlackBox did not open, and I had NO error messages. Recompiled a clean copy of Converters, and now could open a new copy of BBox.

Robert wrote:

DGDanforth wrote:Will everyone please do in the master

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BEGIN
	HALT(99);
	list := NIL
END Converters.

Please tell me what you see.

Did this test with version #450 - not quite the latest, but not old. I am running XP.

With the hacked Converters a new copy of BlackBox did not open, and I had NO error messages. Recompiled a clean copy of Converters, and now could open a new copy of BBox.

Thank you Robert!
So there is at least one other confirmation of strange behavior.
-Doug

Josef Templ wrote:Converters is normally not linked into the .exe file.
Even if I put a HALT into StdLoader, which is linked, I get a proper error window.

- Josef

I don't.
WinXP: Putting a HALT into StdLoader alone causes BB to load successfully with no error message.
Also adding a HALT to Converters stops BB from loading with no error message.

So, there is something definitely different between your system and mine.
The fact that Robert has the same behavior on his XP system says to me that it is XP related.
Are you using Windows 10?

There are several reasons why I can't upgrade to Windows 10 without buying a new computer
and even if I could that would leave unanswered (and a hole) in BlackBox of why it has that
behavior under XP.

-Doug

Dear Doug,
XP is not equal XP. XP change its behavior with the installation of Service Packs.
If you would like to use BlackBox with XP or older Windows (95 & 98) than use BlackBox 1.5
BlackBox 1.6 & 1.7 can't run on Windows 95 & 98 and does not run well on XP.
- Helmut

DGDanforth wrote:

Josef Templ wrote:Converters is normally not linked into the .exe file.
Even if I put a HALT into StdLoader, which is linked, I get a proper error window.

- Josef

I don't.
WinXP: Putting a HALT into StdLoader alone causes BB to load successfully with no error message.
Also adding a HALT to Converters stops BB from loading with no error message.

-Doug

Did you link a new .exe file?
Don't forget to link if you modify any of the linked modules.
Otherwise you would still be using the unmodified module in your test.

I also tested under XP and I always got the same behavior as under Vista and 10.

- Josef

Zinn wrote:Dear Doug,
XP is not equal XP. XP change its behavior with the installation of Service Packs.
If you would like to use BlackBox with XP or older Windows (95 & 98) than use BlackBox 1.5
BlackBox 1.6 & 1.7 can't run on Windows 95 & 98 and does not run well on XP.

Helmut, I not agree with you. I have one PC in the lab, where I used BlackBox applications. And there are still in University many machines using XP. Doug is not along BlackBox programmer using XP as main machine. Alex Ilyin also works on XP. I think that some others also can use XP.

I checked by myself now, that 1.5 has the same bug. Now error window appearing with XP sp3. Only beep.

I found the fix!
The import order in Init should be changed. The Converters should go after HostMenus.