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Here is a slightly simplified version of the ypkDevTool
Instead of compiling directly it simply generates a compile list.
Such a list is very useful when you want to save it as a compile command
as part of your application. It also allows incremental compilation
together with "Dev->Compile Module List", i.e. you see how far it was
able to compile and you can continue compilation with the remaining files after some fixes.
It is also integrated with the error reporting of the compiler, i.e. if an import list has a syntax error, for example,
it is reported with error markers like in the compiler.

- Josef

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Also good that now there is not dependencies from Lists subsystem.
I had been thinking how to publish this tool. I suggest to publish it also in:
http://apps.blackboxframework.org/
If you do not want to register there now, I can publish it.

Feel free to publish it.

However, to me it would be much more convenient if it were included in
the distribution, e.g. as part of DevCompiler.
It is not only a migration tool but more a general purpose development tool that
may be useful in a variety of situations. Migration is just an example.
It is also appealing to me that we could then point the users to our own tools for aiding migration.

Also, I think Doug may be happy to have such a tool in the distribution.

- Josef

p.S. Here is a slightly refined version

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There are so many useful tools... if we will include all of them it will be not easy to keep BlackBox minimalistic.
There is the tool DevDependencies which is doing similar job for selected module Info->Dependencies and Info->Create Tool.
However it does not work very well... it does not show all dependencies.
So maybe we can improve it later and extend it's application for subsystems.

Now for 1.7 separate publication can be enough. What do other Center members think about this? Should we include new module DevMake in 1.7 ?

Small correction: I was not proposing to add a new module.
I was thinking about adding a new command to an existing module.

DevCompiler.MakeList
would do the job. There are no incompatibilities possible, no additional global variables, nothing.
Implementation of course is the same as DevMake.

I know we are close to the release but the alternative seems to be to recommend the ypkDevTool.
Nobody seems to have tested it except me and for me there are several negative points:
- it produces TRAPs
- it consists of 2 subsystems
- it is mostly undocumented with some exceptions in russian language
- it is too complex, e.g it uses WinApi, Kernel, Actions, etc.
- we have no experience with that tool.

To summarize:
We were working hard to make a nice release and we should not destroy that impression by a questionable migration tool.
Instead of putting any effort in improving ypkDevTool it is simpler to include DevCompiler.MakeList.

- Josef

P.S. Is there anything wrong with the forum server. There are no postings from other members.

Josef,
Nice tool but there seems to be missing (please correct me if I am wrong) the capability of listing all files in /USE directory.
Here is what I do in GftSearchFiles to get that path name.

Josef, if you are suggesting to include this new function in the existing module the better place is DevDependencies.

Doug, in my case this tool works well in /USE directory.

Josef, I admire your work. DevMake is a beautiful useful utility. I agree with all your arguments. We should insert it into version 1.7
I also miss the comments of the other members. It looks like that we have 4 members only.
- Helmut

DGDanforth wrote:Josef,
Nice tool but there seems to be missing (please correct me if I am wrong) the capability of listing all files in /USE directory.

/USE is transparent (not seen) by an application.
There should not be any need for a special treatment of it.
It is handled when enumerating a directory.
Please test and let me know if there are any problems.

Or do you mean to list ONLY the files in /USE?

- Josef

Now we have three more issues... Docu+Bug+Feature...