Virus in build 878

Re: Virus in build 878

Postby Robert » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:15 pm

Robert wrote:So I decided to upgrade from 7 to 10, which was reasonably painless so far.

Too good to be true; Microsoft was waiting for me. After two weeks on the road I wanted to watch some catch-up TV tonight, only to discover Windows 10 does not recognise my sound card.

Scream!
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Re: Virus in build 878

Postby Robert » Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:09 pm

cfbsoftware wrote:I'm currently trialling Microsoft's Windows Defender and have had no problems so far.

Windows Defender, on Windows 10, has just informed me that its deleted my copy of BlackBox.exe, build 694!

Its not the version I am using, but hey ... who needs this?
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Re: Virus in build 878

Postby Zinn » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:37 am

That is a big problem.

On the website https://www.virustotal.com/ find 5 from 58 scanner an virus.
See the result at
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/827a ... 499033348/

What can we do?
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Re: Virus in build 878

Postby cfbsoftware » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:31 am

Zinn wrote:That is a big problem.

On the website https://www.virustotal.com/ find 5 from 58 scanner an virus.
See the result at
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/827a ... 499033348/

What can we do?
- Helmut

Five alerts with four different results?? That sounds like false positives to me. If 90% of the scanners all found the same virus then we would really need to worry. I suspect that AVAST and AVG use the same / similar engine so I'm not surprised they were the only two that 'identified' the same 'threat'. Read the sections on false positives in the FAQ and About pages on the VirusTotal website to help in being alert but not alarmed:

https://www.virustotal.com/en/faq/

https://www.virustotal.com/en/about/

It could be just one file in the BlackBox distribution which is triggering the alarm. If that can be identified we might be able to work out how to eliminate the false alarms.
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Re: Virus in build 878

Postby Josef Templ » Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:12 pm

In my experiments it helped if the application logo was replaced by a smaller graphics, e.g. the old one.
But even that did not remove all the warnings.

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Re: Virus in build 878

Postby cfbsoftware » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:37 am

This issue has now been raised in the BlackBox Component Builder Forums:

https://community.blackboxframework.org ... f=32&t=175
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Re: Virus in build 878

Postby Josef Templ » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:27 am

I have added an experimental feature in the automated build.py script.
It now produces additional text files that contain an SHA-256 hash code for the generated zip and exe files.
Inside the distribution it also contains an sha256 file for the BlackBox.exe file.
The files are named like the source file but with the file name appendix "_sha256.txt".
Thus, for BlackBox.exe there exists an additional file named BlackBox.exe_sha256.txt,
for example.

This allows for checking the file integrity at least manually.

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Re: Virus in build 878

Postby Zinn » Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:10 pm

Here is the draft of my new program which create a MD5 Checklist for all files in a directory.

The save set below contains two modules:
TboxCryptMd5.odc
TboxMd5Sum

To run the program
(!)"TboxMd5Sum.CreateChecklist('D:/BlackBoxBeta')"

Any comments and improvements are welcome.
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Re: Virus in build 878

Postby Josef Templ » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:19 am

In general, it would be good to have the basic hashing algorithms in the standard distribution, I think.
MD5, SHA1, SHA256 to name the most common ones.
This can then be used for whatever purpose, for example for encoding passwords, or for encoding files.
In one of my applications I needed to store encrypted passwords and I had to program SHA1 by hand.
Possible but tedious.

Since the list of hash algorithms is long and new ones are invented from time to time
it is almost mandatory to design this as an extensible framework with installable
encoders.

By the way, MD5 and SHA1 are now considered to be not safe against tampering.
SHA256 is still considered to be a safe choice.

Is there anything available from oberoncore or CPC?

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Re: Virus in build 878

Postby Zinn » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:37 am

Josef Templ wrote:Is there anything available from oberoncore or CPC?

No, there isn't any hashing algorithms on CPC.

We have the choice to add the "Create a MD5 Checklist for all files in a directory" to the standard distribution or I publish it on CPC.

I plan to add a MD5 check list file to the next CPC edition.
With the program above you can create a new check list and compare it [F9] with the distributed one.

Is that enough? Or should I write a program which works through the check list an proofs all files in the list.
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